He spoke to Kumar Anshuman and Vatsala Gaur on his electoral roadmap, promise to voters, the caste equations, India’s stance with China and Pakistan and counters allegations towards him and his celebration. Edited excerpts:
Will Or not it’s a bipolar election for the primary time in UP?
Initially, we have been questioning whether or not the SP would develop into another or not. However circumstances modified after we bought immense public help and blessings within the rath yatra. It’s the individuals who need change, we’re with them. The work finished (by us) within the final time period continues to be seen and the (current) authorities has not been in a position to take it past that. We’re proud that the PM landed in a Hercules aircraft on a freeway made by us. We constructed the Agra-Lucknow Expressway on the EPC mannequin. After NHAI, no state authorities had the braveness to hold out such a giant undertaking on EPC mannequin. The world-class expressway by way of design, alignment and driving high quality was inbuilt report time. Now, the NHAI is following our mannequin to construct the Delhi Mumbai Expressway.
However a number of airports have come up in UP…
The Jewar Airport was visualised by the Mayawati authorities, and I had given the permission. This was not a BJP dream. Kushinagar Airport was constructed on the finances sanctioned throughout our authorities. They simply inaugurated it. We constructed Lucknow, Agra, Kanpur metros. What has BJP constructed?
You might have introduced 22 lakh jobs for IT sector. However in Uttar Pradesh, aren’t promising authorities jobs the best way ahead?
It’s the first promise in a sequence of job-related guarantees (Naukri Rozgar Sankalp Shrinkhla). Proper now, the announcement is just for the IT sector. Vacancies within the police, forest and different authorities departments are a separate class. Within the IT sector, we have now a confirmed observe report – 5,500 folks bought direct employment in HCL. Whereas I’ve stated 22 lakh, trying on the UP market, it might simply be 30-40 lakh too.
o you help reservation within the non-public sector?
Reservation needs to be carried out within the non-public sector additionally. It’s getting land at subsidised charge. This land belongs to the federal government, which belongs to the folks. However geographical reservation the place jobs of a state is reserved for folks of that state is unsuitable. The Centre ought to intervene on such issues. It displays a slender mindset. What if tomorrow you say folks of Gujarat can not struggle elections from UP?
Earlier, you aligned with Congress and BSP. Now you might be experimenting with smaller caste-based events. What is the cause for that?
Our expertise with larger events has not been easy. As a substitute of benefiting us, it price us. Which is why we’re allying with smaller events. About experiments… it took a number of experiments for the bulb to be invented (smiles).
How are you positive that smaller events will make a distinction?
Yow will discover out for your self that each one the massive leaders of BJP are calling our alliance companions from Delhi. We want to congratulate our alliance companions that they’re nonetheless with us, however they’re being threatened. You may see FIRs registered towards folks as quickly as they got here to our celebration. I-T raids befell, and another person’s bounty was unearthed which was their very own. Leaders like Swami Prasad Maurya, OP Rajbhar and Dara Singh have vast public help, they’re including votes to the alliance.
SP Maurya says this election is about backward-forward. Do you agree?
Till you do not discuss peoples’ issues, why will they vote for you? Folks have been betrayed by this authorities. The 69,000 aspirants who got here to Lucknow have been hit with lathis. The federal government discriminated towards Dalits and backwards when it got here to recruitments. They are saying ‘Sabka Sath Sabka Vikas’, however what number of vice chancellors are backwards? When it was the SP authorities, folks stated all DMs and officers have been Yadavs, which was a lie. Right now, the CM’s caste has hijacked all the things.
However the central and state governments have OBC and SC/ST ministers…
These are kagazi pichhde (backwards solely on paper). Why are they not going for a caste census then? The BJP belongs to nobody. If the celebration can cheat within the land purchases within the identify of Lord Ram, then it belongs to nobody. Have a look at the corruption that occurred in land purchases in Ayodhya. Authorities officers are buying lands within the improvement space. The District Justice of the Peace is a part of the temple belief, he’s shopping for land. What is usually a larger corruption than this?
What are your views on EWS reservation?
There’s a debate occurring within the Supreme Courtroom and Excessive Courts. The EWS reservation does not align with the basic precept of the Structure for which reservations have been launched. The Mandal Fee’s core ideas shouldn’t be messed with.
Do you help ladies’s illustration?
It needs to be party-based, we’re able to welcome it.
Ladies’s safety and empowerment have develop into election points. What’s your promise?
Watch for the manifesto. ‘Beti, Behen, Maa’ (daughter, sister and mom) shall be on the core of our schemes. We’ll guarantee security; we demonstrated that in our authorities. 1090 helpline was an exemplary undertaking. Even the Supreme Courtroom appreciated it. Asha Jyoti Kendras have been constructed to assist them in case of emergency. There have been pensions and different schemes for them.
However there’s a notion that regulation and order was in a shambles in your tenure, particularly in western UP.
They (BJP) are levelling allegations towards the celebration which created one of many world’s finest response methods. When the police response system of Dial 100 was created, I had despatched some officers to New York and Singapore to grasp the functioning of their police division. The actual criminals are in their very own celebration. I’ve requested them to launch an inventory of prime ten mafias, they haven’t launched it but. If you happen to put collectively the circumstances towards the present chief minister and the deputy chief minister, they are going to exceed the variety of whole sections within the IPC. They discuss riots and regulation and order. It is best to research the statistics for prevalence of riots of their tenure.
Some folks say Akhilesh is an effective chief however don’t need the celebration to come back again…
These items are stated solely to undertaking us as weak. The change in our celebration is obvious. It’s about Nayi Hawa Aur Nayi Sapa (new vitality, new SP). There’s a change in celebration staff’ behaviour. Right now, the worst position is being performed by BJP staff and leaders.
What are your plans for minority communities?
They may get the rights offered below the Structure. We have now fought for them and raised their points.
What would be the distinction between your first and second time period if you happen to come again to energy?
Our celebration does progressive politics. If the general public offers us one other likelihood, then we are going to outdo our earlier time period in working for them.
What are the three issues that you’ll repair if you happen to come to energy?
All this shall be a part of our manifesto. The folks of UP have realised the significance of fine hospitals throughout Covid-19. Our precedence shall be to supply cost-free, world class medical companies to the poor. Offering 300 items of free electrical energy and implementing outdated pension scheme shall be our precedence.
You stated you’ll give 300 items of free electrical energy however energy utilities are already dealing with enormous losses.
Who’s chargeable for it? In 2016, the Uday scheme got here when liabilities of all discoms have been taken up by the federal government. Our authorities was the primary to tackle the burden of ₹39,900 crore of curiosity legal responsibility of discoms, we cleaned their steadiness sheets. This was to be adopted by capital expenditure which was not finished by the BJP authorities. Which is why there’s this an enormous debt.
What’s your views on Chinese language investments in India?
Dr (Ram Manohar) Lohia and Netaji (Mulayam Singh Yadav) had a transparent view on this. Our actual enemy is China. Pakistan is our political enemy. However BJP solely targets Pakistan due to their vote politics. Within the Lok Sabha, solely Samajwadi Occasion raised this query – when will we have now members on 24 meeting seats in PoK. The then dwelling minister stated that we’ll attain until Aksai Chin. Now we’re listening to what’s taking place in Galwan. They’re encroaching our land, encroaching our companies. The Indian authorities ought to take into consideration this and seek the advice of opposition events on learn how to cope with the state of affairs. On the funding entrance, we’re pressured to do enterprise with China. It is a tough state of affairs the place we’re having to do enterprise with our greatest enemy. We have to strengthen our personal industries. Enterprise ke sath sath fauj bhi chalti hai (Enterprise and Military go hand in hand).
The seat-sharing settlement together with your alliance companions shouldn’t be but out. Even Shivpal Yadav has demanded five-seven seats…
We have now finalised all the things. There are some minor points, which stays in each alliance. With Shivpal Yadav Ji, no matter we had agreed upon continues to be there.